Rick Henderson and Mike Bell defend the right of the NFL's Colin Kaepernick to refuse to stand for the National Anthem in protest of the way black Americans are treated, even if they're not convinced he's either understanding the nuance of the injustice and situation, or choosing the best way to express his feelings. Rick doubts that African-Americans can truly claim that they are oppressed in a country with a two-term black president, but the whole debate has opened his eyes to the racist roots of the Star-Spangled Banner. Did you know Francis Scott Key was pro-slavery? The third stanza in particular refers to a black unit (recruited and backed by the British) that defeated Key shortly before he famously wrote about their defeat at the hands of American troops. The guys also dig into a new Satanic group meeting in the region and what that does and does not mean (i.e., theistic Satanists vs. atheistic Satanism, people who believe Satan has divine roots and people who don't.).